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  Jehovah cult kicked me out - but not the man who raped me,' victim claims

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  positions of trusta jehovahs witness spokesman said: we have tried to educate families to try and educate and protect their children, so that children can protect themselves if they find themselves in a situation.if jehovahs were found to have abused someone if they are in a position of trust they would no longer have a position of trust.asked why about the claims sewell had not been kicked out of the jehovahs the spokesman insisted we cant comment on specific situations.we dont give out personal information, he said.http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jehovah-cult-kicked-out---8891636

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  defender of truth

  In case anyone doesn't know, Karen Morgan wrote this article about the landmark court case in the UK. Here's a relevant quote from it..

  "There are so many similarities between this case and the case I am involved in.
  I actually requested an apology from my local body of elders and didn’t even get a response.
  I just wanted them to say sorry for sitting me in front of my abuser and making me say what he had done to me.
  I then tried to get an apology from London Bethel instead, and I was flatly told that Bethel doesn’t apologise!
  I find this quite bizarre since Jehovah’s Witnesses are encouraged to say sorry and repent when they make mistakes.
  If I had received an apology and assurance that steps would be taken to ensure children would be more protected in future, I too would never have considered taking legal action."

  
  
  http://jwsurvey.org/child-abuse-2/landmark-uk-high-court-case-against-watchtower-could-make-history
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  Jehovah cult kicked me out - but not the man who raped me,' victim claims

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  positions of trusta jehovahs witness spokesman said: we have tried to educate families to try and educate and protect their children, so that children can protect themselves if they find themselves in a situation.if jehovahs were found to have abused someone if they are in a position of trust they would no longer have a position of trust.asked why about the claims sewell had not been kicked out of the jehovahs the spokesman insisted we cant comment on specific situations.we dont give out personal information, he said.http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jehovah-cult-kicked-out---8891636

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  defender of truth

  Positions of trust
  A Jehovah’s Witness spokesman said: “We have tried to educate families to try and educate and protect their children, so that children can protect themselves if they find themselves in a situation.”
  If Jehovah’s were found to have abused someone “if they are in a position of trust they would no longer have a position of trust.”
  Asked why about the claims Sewell had not been kicked out of the Jehovah’s the spokesman insisted “we can’t comment on specific situations.”
  “We don’t give out personal information,” he said.
  
  http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jehovah-cult-kicked-out---8891636
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  Do you want to take action to support mandatory child abuse reporting? (UK or US mainly)

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this quote is just for discussion purposes, not my political bias or anything... .

  " a 'revolution in attitudes' is needed to safeguard children from sex abusers, according to the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper.in an interview with the independent on sunday, ms cooper said that the problem was wider than the historic cases uncovered through the jimmy savile scandal and the abuse of hundreds of children in rotherham.she said that childrens voices must be heard by organisations which had failed to act in the past, and pledged that a labour government would make the reporting of abuse a legal requirement... we need to introduce mandatory reporting so that no institution can ever be tempted to think that the reputation of the institution matters more than the protection of the child ... there has to be a stronger obligation to report and to act.labour has included mandatory reporting in the partys pre-election manifesto and has also said it will set up a cross-whitehall unit to tackle child protection.

  "http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/child-sex-abuse-shadow-home-secretary-calls-for-revolution-in-attitudes-to-safeguard-vulnerable-10077725.html.

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  defender of truth

  I'll be away for a while now, so can I ask a favour?

  If you decide to sign a petition, could you please perhaps post a comment, however brief, then maybe the link to the petition that you signed?

  If we do that at least once per page, it will raise awareness of the petitions, as well as making it easy for others to click on. Just a suggestion. Thankyou for supporting this

  
  
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  Do you want to take action to support mandatory child abuse reporting? (UK or US mainly)

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this quote is just for discussion purposes, not my political bias or anything... .

  " a 'revolution in attitudes' is needed to safeguard children from sex abusers, according to the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper.in an interview with the independent on sunday, ms cooper said that the problem was wider than the historic cases uncovered through the jimmy savile scandal and the abuse of hundreds of children in rotherham.she said that childrens voices must be heard by organisations which had failed to act in the past, and pledged that a labour government would make the reporting of abuse a legal requirement... we need to introduce mandatory reporting so that no institution can ever be tempted to think that the reputation of the institution matters more than the protection of the child ... there has to be a stronger obligation to report and to act.labour has included mandatory reporting in the partys pre-election manifesto and has also said it will set up a cross-whitehall unit to tackle child protection.

  "http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/child-sex-abuse-shadow-home-secretary-calls-for-revolution-in-attitudes-to-safeguard-vulnerable-10077725.html.

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  defender of truth

  Thanks Flipper.

  Remember that there are 2 links to petitions in the Opening Post. They are all for mandatory reporting, here they are again..

  https://www.change.org/p/educationgovuk-introduce-law-requiring-adults-working-with-children-to-report-alleged-abuse-mandatenow

  
  https://www.causes.com/actions/1767188-sign-the-petition-to-president-barack-obama-us-attorney-general-eric-holder-and-attorney-general-mary-lou-leary-department-of-juvenile

  
  

  And the 3rd petition again:

  
  

  https://www.change.org/p/david-cameron-change-the-law-to-better-protect-vulnerable-children-like-daniel-pelka-danielslaw
  
  
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  WT loses appeal in UK!!!!!!!

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the wt lost its appeals regarding the charity commission inquiry.

  here is the ruling:.

  http://www.charity.tribunals.gov.uk/documents/decisions/watch-tower-ruling-03mar15.pdf.

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  defender of truth

  Joe Grundy's hard work payed off. Excellent idea :)

  Here is a quote from part of the article in Private Eye:

  "As well as investigating the Jehovah’s Witnesses over safeguarding and their advice to individual congregation charities, the Charity Commission was seeking to probe the organisation’s administration, governance and management in a move which could see the congregation lose its charitable status.

  The commission also served WBTSB with a production order seeking disclosure of all documents recording allegations of abuse, and advice and guidance given in response, as well as minutes of meetings associated with child safeguarding..."

  Read the rest here:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/167980001/jw-child-abuse-makes-private-eye#/173450004

  (just thought I'd link the two threads)
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  JW Child Abuse Makes 'Private Eye'

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  following on from the recent thread about wt losing an appeal concerning the uk charity commission (sorry, i can't do the link) i'm pleased to report that this matter is covered in the latest 'private eye' (20 march - 2 april issue).. it's a one-third page article (p.34) under the heading 'child abuse' and the headline 'silent witnesses'.

  it reports the case accurately, mentions several criminal cases and the ongoing high court compensation case.

  it includes some of judge mckenna's comments..

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  defender of truth

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/147910001/wt-loses-appeal-uk?size=10&page=1
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  Do you want to take action to support mandatory child abuse reporting? (UK or US mainly)

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this quote is just for discussion purposes, not my political bias or anything... .

  " a 'revolution in attitudes' is needed to safeguard children from sex abusers, according to the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper.in an interview with the independent on sunday, ms cooper said that the problem was wider than the historic cases uncovered through the jimmy savile scandal and the abuse of hundreds of children in rotherham.she said that childrens voices must be heard by organisations which had failed to act in the past, and pledged that a labour government would make the reporting of abuse a legal requirement... we need to introduce mandatory reporting so that no institution can ever be tempted to think that the reputation of the institution matters more than the protection of the child ... there has to be a stronger obligation to report and to act.labour has included mandatory reporting in the partys pre-election manifesto and has also said it will set up a cross-whitehall unit to tackle child protection.

  "http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/child-sex-abuse-shadow-home-secretary-calls-for-revolution-in-attitudes-to-safeguard-vulnerable-10077725.html.

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  defender of truth

  Sign this petition for mandatory reporting as well:
  
  "192,479 supporters
  7,521 needed to reach 200,000"
  
  https://www.change.org/p/david-cameron-change-the-law-to-better-protect-vulnerable-children-like-daniel-pelka-danielslaw
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  Do you want to take action to support mandatory child abuse reporting? (UK or US mainly)

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this quote is just for discussion purposes, not my political bias or anything... .

  " a 'revolution in attitudes' is needed to safeguard children from sex abusers, according to the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper.in an interview with the independent on sunday, ms cooper said that the problem was wider than the historic cases uncovered through the jimmy savile scandal and the abuse of hundreds of children in rotherham.she said that childrens voices must be heard by organisations which had failed to act in the past, and pledged that a labour government would make the reporting of abuse a legal requirement... we need to introduce mandatory reporting so that no institution can ever be tempted to think that the reputation of the institution matters more than the protection of the child ... there has to be a stronger obligation to report and to act.labour has included mandatory reporting in the partys pre-election manifesto and has also said it will set up a cross-whitehall unit to tackle child protection.

  "http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/child-sex-abuse-shadow-home-secretary-calls-for-revolution-in-attitudes-to-safeguard-vulnerable-10077725.html.

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  defender of truth

  • Email us

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  Do you want to take action to support mandatory child abuse reporting? (UK or US mainly)

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this quote is just for discussion purposes, not my political bias or anything... .

  " a 'revolution in attitudes' is needed to safeguard children from sex abusers, according to the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper.in an interview with the independent on sunday, ms cooper said that the problem was wider than the historic cases uncovered through the jimmy savile scandal and the abuse of hundreds of children in rotherham.she said that childrens voices must be heard by organisations which had failed to act in the past, and pledged that a labour government would make the reporting of abuse a legal requirement... we need to introduce mandatory reporting so that no institution can ever be tempted to think that the reputation of the institution matters more than the protection of the child ... there has to be a stronger obligation to report and to act.labour has included mandatory reporting in the partys pre-election manifesto and has also said it will set up a cross-whitehall unit to tackle child protection.

  "http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/child-sex-abuse-shadow-home-secretary-calls-for-revolution-in-attitudes-to-safeguard-vulnerable-10077725.html.

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  defender of truth

  Hi Zeb.

  Sorry, what I meant in the title is that these are countries that I know do not have mandatory reporting (not in all states of america, which is the aim of the 2nd petition I posted.), and that I could find well supported petitions for.

  This page does says that mandatory reporting only applies to certain professions in Western Australia. I cannot find any online petitions.

  http://mandatoryreporting.dcp.wa.gov.au/Pages/Aboutmandatoryreportinglegislation.aspx
  

  If anyone has any suggestions as to how we can make a difference by emailing/petitioning, please post them here..

  (Just found this regarding australia, although slightly off-topic. Bravehearts souns like a fine organisation.)

  Bravehearts Inc.

  March 16 at 6:12pm

  The Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse will hold private sessions in Townsville for the first time from today until March 20. The sessions are met with a mix of relief and trepidation for 18 survivors who now have the opportunity to tell the RC of their experiences in a private session with a Commissioner.

  This can be an important part of the healing process and along with Bravehearts, Commission staff provide counselling and can arrange interpreters or other communication assistance if required.

  If you're interested in getting involved in the private hearing process or would like to talk to someone about your story, please call Bravehearts on 1800 272 831.

  2012

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  • Following 16 years of calling for a Royal Commission into child abuse, Bravehearts had a monumental win in November 2012 when the Federal Government announced it would hold an inquiry. Bravehearts was instrumental in helping to shape the Terms of Reference and is now consulting with the Government to ensure the Commission achieves its goals.

  Bravehearts is dedicated to the Royal Commission’s success and is providing community based support services for those wishing to engage with the Royal Commission.

  Bravehearts is here to support those who wish to come forward and share their story and experiences with the Royal Commission.

  We can:

  • Provide you with information and advice about participation in the Royal Commission
  • Provide support in preparing written statements
  • Provide support in your contact with the Royal Commission
  • Accompany clients to private sessions
  • Assist and support clients to appear at a public hearing
  • Provide counselling and ongoing case management for clients
  • Provide referrals to appropriate support services

  We operate a free call national Information and Support Line 1800 BRAVE1 (1800 272 831) (8am to 8pm AEST) to assist clients and their families with any queries pertaining to the Royal Commission or child sexual assault generally

  Anyone can contact them here:

  http://www.bravehearts.org.au/pages/contact-us.php
  
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  Do you want to take action to support mandatory child abuse reporting? (UK or US mainly)

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this quote is just for discussion purposes, not my political bias or anything... .

  " a 'revolution in attitudes' is needed to safeguard children from sex abusers, according to the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper.in an interview with the independent on sunday, ms cooper said that the problem was wider than the historic cases uncovered through the jimmy savile scandal and the abuse of hundreds of children in rotherham.she said that childrens voices must be heard by organisations which had failed to act in the past, and pledged that a labour government would make the reporting of abuse a legal requirement... we need to introduce mandatory reporting so that no institution can ever be tempted to think that the reputation of the institution matters more than the protection of the child ... there has to be a stronger obligation to report and to act.labour has included mandatory reporting in the partys pre-election manifesto and has also said it will set up a cross-whitehall unit to tackle child protection.

  "http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/child-sex-abuse-shadow-home-secretary-calls-for-revolution-in-attitudes-to-safeguard-vulnerable-10077725.html.

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  defender of truth

  This quote is just for discussion purposes, not my political bias or anything..

  
  

  " A 'revolution in attitudes' is needed to safeguard children from sex abusers, according to the shadow Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper.
  In an interview with The Independent on Sunday, Ms Cooper said that the problem was wider than the historic cases uncovered through the Jimmy Savile scandal and the abuse of hundreds of children in Rotherham.

  
  She said that “children’s voices” must be heard by organisations which had failed to act in the past, and pledged that a Labour government would make the reporting of abuse a legal requirement..

  
  “We need to introduce mandatory reporting so that no institution can ever be tempted to think that the reputation of the institution matters more than the protection of the child … there has to be a stronger obligation to report and to act.”
  Labour has included mandatory reporting in the party’s pre-election manifesto and has also said it will set up a cross-Whitehall unit to tackle child protection. "
  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/child-sex-abuse-shadow-home-secretary-calls-for-revolution-in-attitudes-to-safeguard-vulnerable-10077725.html
  
  

  .......
  (The first petition doesn't apply directly to JW's, but worth posting anyway.)
  
  Want to do something other than just talk about the issue of mandatory reporting?
  
  

  Sign this petition:
  "7,361 supporters. 139 needed to reach 7,500"
  https://www.change.org/p/educationgovuk-introduce-law-requiring-adults-working-with-children-to-report-alleged-abuse-mandatenow
  
  And this one...
  
  A petition from the campaign to
  Mandate Child Molestation Reporting In All Religious Faiths:
  
  Progress
  2,363 signed
  2,637 more needed
  https://www.causes.com/actions/1767188-sign-the-petition-to-president-barack-obama-us-attorney-general-eric-holder-and-attorney-general-mary-lou-leary-department-of-juvenile

  
  

  Any other practical links/suggestions welcome. Please sign a petition or show your support (I had nothing to do with these by the way). Well, the ball is now rolling, over to you guys\gals..